By Dialogo September 19, 2013 Conversations about closer cooperation in the cyber arena took place during a two-day official visit by Brazilian Minister of Defense Celso Amorim and his team to Argentina on September 12, as guests of his Argentine counterpart Agustín Rossi. During the meeting, the ministers stated their support to multilateral cooperation initiatives among member countries of UNASUR’s South American Defense Council. Brazil and Argentina announced the creation of a bilateral organization aimed at analyzing cyber defense cooperation actions. The neighboring country will send a team of civilian and military specialists to Brazil in November, in order to learn about the activities and projects conducted by the Brazilian Army’s Cyber Defense Center. An interest of expanding scientific cooperation between the countries that share Antarctic territory was also discussed, as well as the idea to create a South American Defense School, with different initiatives in the field of defense that are applied in regional countries. The Brazilian Minister visited the Argentine Naval Industrial Complex (CINAR), and he also met the Argentine Minister of Foreign Affairs Héctor Timerman. The Brazilian Ambassador in Buenos Aires, Everton Vargas, and his team, supported the official visit. The head of Brazil’s Cyber Defense Center, General José Carlos dos Santos, was also a part of Amorim’s team in Buenos Aires.
Saracens will face four-time Heineken Cup winners Toulouse, Connacht and Italian side Zebre in Pool three, while Aviva Premiership champions Leicester appear to have been given a favourable draw against Ulster, Montpellier and Treviso. Clermont, who topped the French championship at the end of the normal season and were runners-up to Toulon in last season’s competition, will meet Harlequins, Scarlets and Racing Metro in the only pool with two French teams. Meanwhile, in Pool 6, two-time champions Munster will face Perpignan, who return to the premier European competition after a two-year absence, Edinburgh and Gloucester. Northampton, who lost out to Leinster in the 2011 final at Cardiff, have also drawn French Top 14 champions Castres and RaboDirect PRO12 side Ospreys in what looks to be the toughest pool. Reigning champions Toulon will face sides from England, Scotland and Wales as they must overcome Cardiff Blues, Glasgow and Exeter if they are to advance from Pool 2 as they bid to retain their title. Northampton will face reigning Amlin Challenge Cup champions and three-time European champions Leinster in the pool stages of next season’s Heineken Cup. Press Association
11 Left back: Alan Kennedy (Liverpool) – Kennedy scored the winning goal in two European Cup finals (1981 and 1984), with the second the final kick of a nervy penalty shootout against Roma in their own stadium. Honourable mention: Dennis Irwin Right midfielder: Cristiano Ronaldo – Impossible to leave out the competitions highest ever goalscorer. Ronaldos goals and performances on the way to winning the 2008 trophy earned him the Ballon dOr that year even if he did miss a penalty in the final. Honourable mention: David Beckham 11 11 Centre back: Bill Foulkes (Manchester United) – He may not have as many trophies as some of his Liverpudian counterparts but Foulkes was one of only two men to win the 1968 European Cup final after surviving the 1958 Munich air disaster. He fittingly scored the goal to take Manchester United to that Wembley final. Honourable mentions: Jamie Carragher, Emlyn Hughes, Phil Thompson, Rio Ferdinand. Centre back: Alan Hansen (Liverpool) – Before he became Match of the Days top pundit and dropped the you wont win anything with kids clanger, Hansen won three European Cups during the 70s and 80s as Liverpool won everything possible. 11 Striker: George Best – Best dazzled in the 1968 final, turning Benficas defenders inside out on the way and scored in the final, as United became the first English club to win the Champions League. He also won the Ballon dOr that year. Thursday night will signal the first time that Manchester United and Liverpool will face off in a European competition.It is one of the biggest rivalries in football with eight European Cups lifted between them.Manchester United became England’s first winners in 1968 before Liverpool won the competition four times in eight years from 1977 to 1984.They also boast arguably the two greatest comebacks in the competition’s history, with Manchester United scoring twice in injury time to beat Bayern Munich 2-1 in 1999 and Liverpool winning on penalties in 2005 despite losing 3-0 at half time to AC Milan.And despite the setting of their first European tussle being on the less glamorous stage of the Europa League, the rivalry will be no less fierce.Legends have made history for both sides but who has contributed more in Europe? Roy Keane or Graeme Souness? Steven Gerrard or Sir Bobby Charlton? Cristiano Ronaldo or Kevin Keegan?Some magnificent players have represented the clubs in Europe, far too many to fit into one team, but talkSPORT gave it a go anyway.Let us know who you think should have been included in the comments section below!Click the arrow, above, right to see the Manchester United and Liverpool combined all-time European XI. Right back: Phil Neal (Liverpool) – No Briton has won more European Cups, with Neal present for FOUR of Liverpools five triumphs. Only three players have won the competition more than the Englishman. Honourable mention: Gary Neville Centre midfielder: Steven Gerrard – Gerrard almost single-handedly dragged Liverpool to the podium to collect their fifth Champions League trophy with his displays in 2005. From his late rocket against Olympiakos to scrape through the group stages, to his header to begin the magnificent comeback from 3-0 down at half time, Gerrard optimised Liverpools miracle of Istanbul. 11 11 11 11 11 Left midfielder: Ryan Giggs – Giggs has won the trophy twice, scoring the winning penalty in the 2008 final. Only two players have played more games in the competition and the Welshman is the only player to score in 16 different Champions League seasons. Goalkeeper: Ray Clemence (Liverpool) – Prior to working within the England set up as a coach, Clemence won three European Cups with Liverpool, keeping two clean sheets in three of those finals in the process. Honourable mentions: Peter Schmeichel, Jerzy Dudek, Bruce Grobbelaar, Edwin van der Sar Centre midfielder: Bobby Charlton – Like Foulkes, Charlton was a survivor of 1958 tragedy who played in the emotional 1968 final success. Playing at centre midfield, Manchester Uniteds all-time top goalscorer bagged a brace as the club ran out 4-1 winners after extra-time. Honourable mentions: Paul Scholes, Roy Keane, Graeme Souness, Ray Kennedy 11 11 Striker: Kenny Dalglish – King Kenny won three European Cups, including in 1978 when he scored the winner with a lovely dink over Club Brugge goalkeeper Birger Jensen. Honourable mentions: Ian Rush, Kevin Keegan, Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, Dwight Yorke, Andy Cole, Denis Law